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amok: The fact that Rockstar no longer sell the games, does not make it legal for you to pack them up and offer them. Rockstar still owns the rights to the games, no matter if they sell them or not. The same applies to the short time they gave them away for tree on their website. Since they own the rights, then it is also within their rights to do with them what they want, including giving them away (on their own website) for a short time. This does not mean you can do the same, the games did not become freeware.

The problem is that gOg is a buisness, and it is illegal to have links to illegal games on their website, they are trying to get partners to sell games here, so they need to be seen as above board.

There is an argument for game preservation in making sure that software is available and do not get lost, which is important, but gOg as a buisness cannot and should not have those links on their forum. There are other sites that do so, which does nont have that legal and corporate visibility / reputation

edit - Think of this. Last week, gOg gave away The Beast Inside here on their website. This does not mean that The Beast Inside is now freeware, and you can copy and distribute it to your hearts content. that would still be piracy.
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SilentMRG: I'm only going to tell you two things, because I'm tired of explaining what piracy, fair use, abandonware, among other things.

The following is:

1 - The guys who did this are not making a profit, they are not selling. It's just preservation and nothing more.

2 - The link is not direct, the link is to the GTA forum, a very well-known forum by the way. So there is nothing wrong with the link, if you think it is wrong for whatever reason, just don't click on it, or click and don't click on the link that leads to the package, simple as making pie.

Cheers! ;)
He's just trying to save you some headache. Don't know what the laws.are where you are, but it is illegal in some of the countries where GOG does business (including the UK, the EU, and the US). That's all. I'm very much for preservation, but the law in many places is still a thing GOG must obey. I support the idea of what you're doing and I hope they leave this here, but I wouldn't count ion it.
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SilentMRG: I'm only going to tell you two things, because I'm tired of explaining what piracy, fair use, abandonware, among other things.
You don't seem to understand any of those things, so you're in no position to "explain" them. Try taking those misconceptions to court and see how well you do. To start with, there's no legal concept of "abandonware".
Isn't the classics website for the first two GTAs still up or did someone recreate it illegally?
Post edited February 05, 2024 by DoomSooth
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DoomSooth: Isn't the classics website for the first two GTAs still up or did someone recreate it illegally?
It should still be up.
So, even if this is done as hypothetically as legally as possible, Take 2 Interactive hasn't exactly been known for being friendly towards fan projects.
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InkPanther: I'm not sure GOG shares this view...
If you can't sell it, you don't own it.

And as the entire digital landscape is about you not owning it.... I don't see the problem.
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LegoDnD: GTA was shit until Vice City.
GTA III is pretty good.
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InkPanther: I'm not sure GOG shares this view...
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rtcvb32: If you can't sell it, you don't own it.

And as the entire digital landscape is about you not owning it.... I don't see the problem.
You know pretty well it's not about what you or I find acceptable.
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SilentMRG: Do not feed the troll. ;)
Elderly men tends to get overly bitter and 'trolly' when the age starts to sink in, especially when their less than ideal game store isn't behaving like it used to... or how they want it to.

Pity them for this tautological behavior. ;)

/s

Seriously though - linking to forums and even archive.org is generally ok here on GOG. They've always been pretty liberal there.
Post edited February 05, 2024 by sanscript
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ᛞᚨᚱᚹᛟᚾᛞ: So, even if this is done as hypothetically as legally as possible, Take 2 Interactive hasn't exactly been known for being friendly towards fan projects.
Since it's on gta-forums for over a year now, I think it's semi-safe to assume that they actually don't care in this case.
Post edited February 05, 2024 by ssling
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GTA 1 and 2 are still available for free directly from Rockstar:

https://gta.com.ua/rockstargames-classics-free-download.phtml

Kind of funny they offer the best game of the series (GTA 2) for free, but I'm not complaining
Post edited February 05, 2024 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: GTA 1 and 2 are still available for free directly from Rockstar:

https://gta.com.ua/rockstargames-classics-free-download.phtml

Kind of funny they offer the best game of the series (GTA 2) for free, but I'm not complaining
That's the place I was talking about but didn't link to it because I wasn't sure if it would be alright.
Not to be alarmist, but something like this that is released, and everyone checks it on that forum and everything is ok (2022), and then later the download link is changed (updated version?) and the original post is edited (2023), is one possible method for spreading viruses/malware under the radar.

Not saying that this is going on, just that it is risky.
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idbeholdME: GTA 1 and 2 are still available for free directly from Rockstar:

https://gta.com.ua/rockstargames-classics-free-download.phtml

Kind of funny they offer the best game of the series (GTA 2) for free, but I'm not complaining
This is not a Rockstar website, therefore, they are not available for free directly from Rockstar. It is unknown whether the files available on the website you linked are safe.

https://www.whois.com/whois/gta.com.ua
https://who.is/whois/gta.com.ua

The games are not available from the official Rockstar website.
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lupineshadow: Not to be alarmist, but something like this that is released, and everyone checks it on that forum and everything is ok (2022), and then later the download link is changed (updated version?) and the original post is edited (2023), is one possible method for spreading viruses/malware under the radar.

Not saying that this is going on, just that it is risky.
There's a couple of false positives, but that's all.