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Even though I don't support piracy (although I admit I was once a software pirate for financial and DRM reasons) I only posted this to comment that it seems Metro: Exodus's Denuvo protection has been bypassed.

I think every games dev should earn their right due for their hard work. But on this situation I think it's fair because of Deep Silver's greediness.
Not only they decided to implement one of the strongest forms of DRM there is, but also even wanted to "punish" Steam and GOG users.

I know this post may seem a bit petish and pointless, buit it only proves one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.
Although I'm sure many 4A Games programmers were against Deep Silver's decisions to begin with,.

EDIT: I guess it's now likely that M:E will land on GOG as soon as EPIC's exclusive deal is over :P
Post edited February 20, 2019 by karnak1
Denuvo foi derrubado denovo. ba dum tss
Post edited February 20, 2019 by M3troid
First of all, the Steam version is the one that got cracked and not Epic's. Secondly...
Not only they decided to implement one of the strongest forms of DRM there is, but also even wanted to "punish" Steam and GOG users.
> "punish" Steam and GOG users

Again, Steam users who pre-ordered the game on Steam...got the game. The version that got cracked is the Steam version, not the Epic one. How is their going Epic exclusive a punishment if they still let Steam users who pre-ordered it download and play the game from Steam? Please explain how that works to me.
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karnak1: Although I'm sure many 4A Games programmers were against Deep Silver's decisions to begin with,.
You mean the same ones that threaten to bring the next one of the series to console only? The decision to be an Epic exclusive is always about the extra 18% (and whatever extra deals with Epic) and not about DRM I believe.
No one even cared to crack the Epic version. lol
Is it wrong to have a warm,fuzzy and pleasant feeling after reading this :)? Cheers
Post edited February 21, 2019 by deja65
1) Good. Everytime Denuvo is defeated is good in my book. Perhaps, over time, it will make devs reconsider spending their money on a useless DRM-protection scheme and will instead focus their resources on making good games.

2) The game is probably rubbish anyhow. Or at least bad enough that the devs rather took the quick money from Epic, for becoming exclusive, than risk selling it openly. Probably whatever they get from Epic is more than what they would expect through actual sales.
That took longer than I thought it would.
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karnak1: Even though I don't support piracy (although I admit I was once a software pirate for financial and DRM reasons) I only posted this to comment that it seems Metro: Exodus's Denuvo protection has been bypassed.

I think every games dev should earn their right due for their hard work. But on this situation I think it's fair because of Deep Silver's greediness.
Not only they decided to implement one of the strongest forms of DRM there is, but also even wanted to "punish" Steam and GOG users.

I know this post may seem a bit petish and pointless, buit it only proves one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.
Although I'm sure many 4A Games programmers were against Deep Silver's decisions to begin with,.

EDIT: I guess it's now likely that M:E will land on GOG as soon as EPIC's exclusive deal is over :P
Business, the word you are looking for is business, not punishment.

It was a business choice to go with Epic and lose out on the Steam market share and Chinese market in the hope of gaining more with Epic store Rev split while building a strong relationship with the storefront. GOG's market share is dwarfed by that of Steam, to even put the two together is a little silly.

'' one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.''

Not true, Denuvo is mostly there to protect first-week sales more than long term piracy, as it's nearly always cracked...a few weeks after release. It's a business choice, a choice they are fully in their rights to make, much like going with Epic, whether you disagree with it or not.

Much like GoG made the choice to have Thronebreaker as an exclusive and Project Warlock as a timed exclusive.
Post edited February 20, 2019 by Linko64
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PookaMustard: First of all, the Steam version is the one that got cracked and not Epic's. Secondly...

Not only they decided to implement one of the strongest forms of DRM there is, but also even wanted to "punish" Steam and GOG users.
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PookaMustard: > "punish" Steam and GOG users

Again, Steam users who pre-ordered the game on Steam...got the game. The version that got cracked is the Steam version, not the Epic one. How is their going Epic exclusive a punishment if they still let Steam users who pre-ordered it download and play the game from Steam? Please explain how that works to me.
I would call it a dick move more than punishment but not everyone buy into games blindly and pre order it however they knew that many would have bought it on release day or close to it but they choose to give the notice about Epic Store exclusivity and remove the game a few hours after the announcement when the has been advertised on steam for a long fucking time. Many missed out because of that or atleast for a year if they didn't want to install Epic Launcher.
Post edited February 20, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
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karnak1: Even though I don't support piracy (although I admit I was once a software pirate for financial and DRM reasons) I only posted this to comment that it seems Metro: Exodus's Denuvo protection has been bypassed.

I think every games dev should earn their right due for their hard work. But on this situation I think it's fair because of Deep Silver's greediness.
Not only they decided to implement one of the strongest forms of DRM there is, but also even wanted to "punish" Steam and GOG users.

I know this post may seem a bit petish and pointless, buit it only proves one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.
Although I'm sure many 4A Games programmers were against Deep Silver's decisions to begin with,.

EDIT: I guess it's now likely that M:E will land on GOG as soon as EPIC's exclusive deal is over :P
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Linko64: Business, the word you are looking for is business, not punishment.

It was a business choice to go with Epic and lose out on the Steam market share and Chinese market in the hope of gaining more with Epic store Rev split while building a strong relationship with the storefront. GOG's market share is dwarfed by that of Steam, to even put the two together is a little silly.

'' one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.''

Not true, Denuvo is mostly there to protect first-week sales more than long term piracy, as it's nearly always cracked...a few weeks after release. It's a business choice, a choice they are fully in their rights to make, much like going with Epic, whether you disagree with it or not.

Much like GoG made the choice to have Thronebreaker as an exclusive and Project Warlock as a timed exclusive.
Thronebreaker is not a GOG exclusive. Or it was just for a month.
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Linko64: Business, the word you are looking for is business, not punishment.

It was a business choice to go with Epic and lose out on the Steam market share and Chinese market in the hope of gaining more with Epic store Rev split while building a strong relationship with the storefront. GOG's market share is dwarfed by that of Steam, to even put the two together is a little silly.

'' one thing: pointless to want to keep enforcing DRM on games and also to create exclusives in order to grab extra $$$.''

Not true, Denuvo is mostly there to protect first-week sales more than long term piracy, as it's nearly always cracked...a few weeks after release. It's a business choice, a choice they are fully in their rights to make, much like going with Epic, whether you disagree with it or not.

Much like GoG made the choice to have Thronebreaker as an exclusive and Project Warlock as a timed exclusive.
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karnak1: Thronebreaker is not a GOG exclusive. Or it was just for a month.
The fanboyism is strong. Don't go throw stones at other companies if you're on it to play sides mate, the discussion is dead from the start if you do that.
so?
Once again experience proves that DRM does not stop piracy.
Hmmph... Wouldn't need to be cracked if Deep silver did the right thing.