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Posted January 27, 2010
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Aliasalpha: The saddest thing is that GFWL is a platform with great potential, it just needs some care and common sense applied to it

Definitely.
Posted January 27, 2010
and having a 100% offline saving mode
Personally I think the unified profile and the achievements should be a standard (the latter is pointless but you can ignore them if you don't like them) but the whole need to be online to save thing is a suicide note for a service
HEAR THAT UBI?
Posted January 27, 2010
I have friends who go insane when a GFWL game asks them to make an account. Why? What is so bad about just MAKING an account? You make an account for your operating system, your instant messenger, your email, and pay 15$ a month to play WoW, but making a free universal account scares the bajeesus out of you?
Posted January 27, 2010
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phrequencyviii: I have friends who go insane when a GFWL game asks them to make an account. Why? What is so bad about just MAKING an account? You make an account for your operating system, your instant messenger, your email, and pay 15$ a month to play WoW, but making a free universal account scares the bajeesus out of you?

Need to know. We live in a world where personal information is a commonly traded currency among businesses, and in such an environment it's quite sensible to only give out such information on a need to know basis. In light of this, when a service attached to a game tries to force or coerce one to set up an account and in the process surrender personal information while offering nothing of value in return then it's not surprising that some people aren't too keen on the idea.
Posted January 27, 2010
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DarrkPhoenix: Need to know. We live in a world where personal information is a commonly traded currency among businesses, and in such an environment it's quite sensible to only give out such information on a need to know basis. In light of this, when a service attached to a game tries to force or coerce one to set up an account and in the process surrender personal information while offering nothing of value in return then it's not surprising that some people aren't too keen on the idea.

Thats a good point but the kind of people I know do not think that deep about it (which isn't even that deep). Like I said, they have no problems with the above! "THIS IS STUPID BLAH BLAH" is usually the deal. Don't you just use an email address/live id (which they almost always already have) anyway?
Posted January 27, 2010
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phrequencyviii: Don't you just use an email address/live id (which they almost always already have) anyway?

Not sure, I haven't bought any games that use GFWL. However, for myself, e-mail address is one of the things I'm least willing to give out to companies. Unless they have a strong legitimate reason to need to be able to contact me or I purposefully want to receive marketing e-mails from them then a company doesn't get my e-mail.
Posted January 27, 2010
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phrequencyviii: Don't you just use an email address/live id (which they almost always already have) anyway?
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DarrkPhoenix: Not sure, I haven't bought any games that use GFWL. However, for myself, e-mail address is one of the things I'm least willing to give out to companies. Unless they have a strong legitimate reason to need to be able to contact me or I purposefully want to receive marketing e-mails from them then a company doesn't get my e-mail.

I think all of MS's stuff uses your email address as your Live ID. It's understandable for stuff like forgetting your password or whatever. I haven't ever gotten any crap from them I haven't wanted and it's nice having a universal login for stuff.
Posted January 27, 2010
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Weclock: "well duh"
the thing is, those are all pointed out by other people, Microsoft still walks around with this air that THEY are the gaming messiah and that nothing could have possibly done anything as good before they came to the market.
They constantly ignore their roots,

You're right, they should be publicly saying " hey general public, you know what ? Our accomplishments are actually pretty weak compared to other companies". That would make a lot of business sense, right?
Like the others have said, this is nothing new or unique for any company to be doing
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Posted January 27, 2010
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phrequencyviii: I think all of MS's stuff uses your email address as your Live ID. It's understandable for stuff like forgetting your password or whatever. I haven't ever gotten any crap from them I haven't wanted and it's nice having a universal login for stuff.

Again, need to know. There's no need for a company to know my e-mail address just so I can play a game online (or even more so, for a single-player game). You may feel differently and be willing to give out various bits of information more readily, just understand where other people are coming from when they don't want to needlessly give out information.
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